Missing 411

Uh-huh.

News in Idaho falls is kinda slow.

Not a lot of big things happen here.

I had only been here a few weeks,

when this case, the biggest story of my career,

happened.

It just didn't make sense

to not find anything.

Footprints, pieces of flesh, pieces of clothing.

Oh, it's-- it's troubling.

You know, I got, you know, members of my search and rescue unit

that aren't sleeping too well.

This is a small town in Idaho called Leadore.

It's remote. Your cell phone is going in and out.

You're on a gravel road at first,

but then it turns very rocky.

And when I say rocky, I mean big boulders.

You need to drive maybe five miles an hour

and that's safe.

And it's just real rocky. Takes a long time

to travel the short distance from the town of Leadore

to the campground.

Once you leave the pavement, I think it's

a little over seven miles of pretty rough road.

Once you reach the campsite to where they were at,

the Timber Creek Campground,

it kind of just dead ends.

And you get out and there's the campsite,

there's the table, there's a fire pit.

Ten-twenty feet away,

there's a steep hill that goes to the creek.

It's a combination of

willowy, swampy, creek bottoms,

steep hillsides, some of 'em...

sage brush, some of them timber.

Lot of rock.

They arrived at the campground

late on the evening of July 9th, Thursday evening.

It was very late, it was dark.

They say they instantly went to bed.

From day one, law enforcement told us

that all of the people at the campsite

were considered persons of interests

just because they were simply there.

DeOrr Sr and Jessica Mitchell,

the parents of young DeOrr,

Grandpa, Jessica's grandpa,

And another man named Isaac Reinwand,

who was a friend of Grandpa

who apparently at the last minute

decided to go camping with them.

It was dark when they got there.

DeOrr said they parked the truck

parked the trailer in the Suburban.

Issac pitched his tent,

they got Grandpa settled in the camp trailer,

they slept in the back of the Suburban.

Got up the next morning, and then he realized

how rural it was.

You know, they were basically at the end of the road.

Thought it was a pretty safe place.

You know? Cliffs kinda all the way around,

not really any way for him to get out.

You know?

The next morning, July 10th, Friday,

they wake up,

they're hanging around in the campsite.

They had gone into Leadore, to the store,

because Jessica needed feminine products,

They went in there and they bought,

you know, just that stuff

and then some candy and stuff for the little man.

Jessica goes to the bathroom,

as the boys loaded up.

And they return to the campground.

So they get to the campground,

this Isaac and the grandfather Bob

said, "We got some fish."

And he showed the fish to DeOrr,

and DeOrr supposedly says, "I ain't believing you caught those fish in the stream.

I can't believe it. Show me where you got 'em."

So Jessica and DeOrr with this Issac

go towards the creek, which is maybe 100 feet away.

They say to little DeOrr,

"Do you wanna come with us?"

According to law enforcement, little DeOrr follows them for a point,

but then turns around and goes back.

The parents continue on assuming that Grandpa is watching DeOrr.

And Jessica tells me,

she keeps looking back over her shoulder

to make sure the little boy is not following them.

And when she was confident he wasn't following,

they went to the two spots along the creek

where they supposedly caught the fish.

They went down there probably 10-15 minutes,

and then they saw minnows.

And they were gonna go back to camp and get little man,

because he loves fish.

He loves bugs... stuff like that.

And so, they went back up there

and DeOrr looks at Bob and says,

"Where's little DeOrr?"

And Bob says, "He was right here."

"Where's little DeOrr?" And Grandpa says, "He's right there."

Of course he's not there.

Grandfather claims he didn't go inside his trailer.

But I believe he did.

Police say that Issac Reinwand at this time is down at the creek, fishing.

They say they panic.

They do a search of the immediate campground.

They look wherever they can.

Craziness started. Everybody's...

I mean, they started yelling, they started searching.

They searched for about 15 to 20 minutes.

No sign of them.

Then it's decided they better call 911.

It's a remote area, you can't get cell phone service.

Jessica says miraculously she got a signal.

Um, my two-year-old son...

um, we can't find him.

DeOrr hops into his truck,

goes down the road to see if he can get better service.

Both of them were on the phone

with 911 at the same time.

You know, "My son's missing. Can you help us?"

And then it's just all been chaos from there.

Good evening, everyone.

You're in the right place, at the right time.

This is Coast to Cost AM.

Tonight, we plunge once again,

into the deep end of the paranormal pool.

Hundreds of people vanish from our national parks and forests.

Some right under the noses of parents or family members,

under very unusual, but very similar circumstances.

Dave Paulides, welcome back to the program.

Thanks for having me, George.

All right, Dave, I wanna jump right into this.

DeOrr Kunz, two-years-old.

I mean, you were a cop.

If you were investigating this case,

abduction is one of the least likely events, right?

I would probably say yes.

And the reason for that is,

is that the family was in a campground,

deep into the mountains.

There was one very rocky, rough road going in,

and the same road out.

If someone would have driven into that area,

you would think that the family would have heard him.

And if they would've walked up to the campsite,

they for sure would have been seen.

It's like, it's like in so many of the other cases.

It's like he's plucked out of the sky.

It's like just snatched out of the sky.

That case is very reminiscent

of a case that happened decades earlier

just outside of Estes Park, Colorado.

St. Malo is... Purely for Catholics,

it's one of the most visited placed in the Estes Valley.

Up on the hill you have the statue of Christ.

Then right below that,

is St. Catherine's chapel.

The story of St. Malo is really wonderful.

It goes back to a man named Father Joseph Pascetti,

who was a Catholic priest.

One day, in 1916,

he came up to Tahosa Valley,

and he and two or three others were camping

on the slopes of Mount Meeker,

when they saw a meteor in the sky.

They got up,

wandered toward the meteor hoping they'd found where it came down,

and ended up standing on the rock

where St. Catherine's Chapel is located.

And Father Pascetti said this would be a good place for a boys' camp,

and the rest is history.

I'm the caretaker here,

at St. Catherine of Siena's Chapel on the Rock.

This was built 1935

as a chapel for camp kids for all those years.

Lots of camp kids came here.

And 1973, I came up here and became a camp counselor

at camp St. Malo, and loved the outdoors.

Every week, the kids would go on hikes.

There was an easy, medium and hard hike.

And we'd have bonfire and lodge night,

where we did skits and sang songs and...

The camaraderie was awesome.

It's August, it's a warm summer month.

Bobby Bizup was a ten-year-old camper.

He was partially deaf, wore a hearing aid.

And he liked to fish.

Well, on August 15th, at about 6:00 p.m.

Bobby was fishing in the small creek behind the retreat,

when a counselor approached him and told him it was dinner time.

Bobby acknowledged the counselor