The Curious Case of...

Hey.

Lima, why do you suck so bad?

Stop. I just... I'm...

Why are you so evil? How am I evil?

Stop. Do me a favour. Why... Why are the police here?

Please do me a favour because now you're pissing me off.

Back up. Back up. Look, I just literally...

You did this on purpose. I don't trust you either.

Get in the car. Don't talk to her.

I literally... I came to tell you guys...

He's my boyfriend. Go. This is what you wanted.

Evil woman. This is what you got.

This is... Get in the car.

---! ----!

---- you! OK.

You dumb ----!

Now, this is a story

about the right to make your own decisions.

You remember Britney, right?

Free Britney! Justice for Britney! Free Britney! Whoo!

A few years ago,

the internet was obsessed with pop star Britney Spears.

All of the internet is talking about this today.

There's some shady ---- going on,

and I want answers and you want answers

and we all want answers.

A group of her fans

were protesting the fact that she was in a conservatorship.

She is an adult woman.

This is terrible obviously.

#FreeBritney

That's a legal arrangement that stripped her

of major life and financial decisions.

Not being able to rent a hotel room, rent a car.

She's not good enough to have access to her own money?

She is not allowed to get married. She is not allowed to have a kid.

Fans felt Britney was denied these rights

years longer than necessary.

I mean, imagine going through what she went through for 13 years.

Would you be able to survive?

And as a result, she was trapped, basically living her life in a cage.

Like, this is a human rights violation.

This is absolutely despicable what's going on.

But Britney's not the only celebrity

whose legal rights

have sparked intense online debate.

One punch, you're done!

How do I know?

Because I'm the Britney Spears of 'Jackass'.

People have ---- me so bad

that I want the world to know what I've been through.

Today, I'm looking into the case of Bam Margera,

the Britney Spears of 'Jackass'.

Bam Margera is a skateboarder and stuntman

and was a star of MTV's 'Jackass' in the early 2000s,

a show that was a cultural phenomenon.

Yeah!

Whoa.

'Jackass' was my childhood. They were bad-ass.

This group of ragtag daredevil friends

would perform outrageous and reckless stunts and tricks,

seeing who could endure the most pain, all for their own amusement.

I'm Bam Margera and this is rat trap ----!

The dumber the stunt, the bigger the laughs.

This seemingly small-time show turned into a massive hit

and they went on to make three feature films.

And Bam was one of the show's biggest stars.

He was such a draw

that he got his own spin-off show

that ran for five seasons

and featured him pulling merciless pranks on his lovable family.

You've mentioned in interviews before

that you're not always entirely comfortable with being famous.

I've always thought that being really famous

would be like the answer to literally all of my problems.

My name is Steven Glover.

I'm also known as Steve-O of 'Jackass' fame.

And I've known Bam for over 20 years.

In the beginning, when 'Jackass' came out,

Bam was established as a professional skateboarder.

He had all of these revenue streams

that were just turbocharged by 'Jackass'.

He was selling more skateboards than Tony Hawk.

Bam was wildly successful

and not interested in substance abuse at all.

And I was actually homeless,

living on people's sofas, like, unemployed, broke,

in terrible trouble with drugs and alcohol.

And over the course of those 20 years,

we've had almost a total role reversal.

'Jackass' has put me through ---- hell.

'Jackass' was everything to me.

Who the ---- cares if I'm drunk as hell or not anymore?

There's never been a point in the Jackass franchise

where what we did was about drugs and alcohol.

You know, like, the idea of having the persona

of the wild and crazy guy who's loose and drinks and all that,

like, sure, you can buy into that.

But for me, it was just an impediment.

Now, I've been clean and sober for 15 years

and it's been the opposite with Bam.

Bam was arrested after causing a scene at a Thai food restaurant.

Cops say he was drunk in public

and unable to take care of himself.

Now he's in all of this trouble with drugs and alcohol

and it's just been a tragic downhill.

It's been so hard to watch.

I was always very careful

not to try to push recovery or sobriety onto Bam

because I really feel strongly that when you try to push it on somebody,

you're really pushing them away from it.

People love a comeback story so much,

but...is that point going to come or is he going to be dead first?

I don't know.

In 2021, Bam's family tried an intervention, but he resisted.

Days later, he was arrested.

And then his family turned to a Hollywood entrepreneur

who was working in the addiction and recovery industry.

She's known for innovative treatments

and her willingness to tackle the toughest addictions.

My name is Lima Jevremovic

and I started a small business called AURA.

I make software

and our software can be used on virtual reality headsets.

Could virtual reality

soon become a useful tool in fighting depression?

Virtual reality to fight addiction.

Sounds a little sci-fi, but it's working.

AURA's all about data-driven healing

for people struggling with mental illness.

Lima's approach is to blend her novel VR software

with traditional addiction and mental health treatments.

The idea is that her software can track a patient's progress

through the journey of rehabilitation.

I'm just gonna put your headset on.

Ooh.

Whoa.

Are you ready for me to put you in a triggering environment?

We're tracking your behavioural patterns.

We're tracking your voice patterns.

We're tracking your biomarkers.

Oh, God. It's scary.

So what our software does is it can predict if someone's at risk

to harm themselves, harm someone else or potentially relapse.

We've used it with veterans,

we've used it with patients with severe mental illness,

people struggling with addiction.

I used to drive through L.A.

and you'd see these homeless people panhandling on the street corner

and I'd be like, "Just get a ---- job. Come on."

I had my studio that I would do portraits down on Skid Row.

I got to know some of these people that I was photographing,

and then I did some interviews with some of them,

and I realised, "Wow, these people have very different stories."

And that turned into a YouTube channel

called Soft White Underbelly,

where I interview drug addicts, drug dealers,

gang members, ----, things like that.

And pretty quickly, all of a sudden, I had 100 followers,

and then I had 1,000 followers

and then it just kept growing and growing.

Originally, I saw Mark's videos,

and I was just drawn in because of people struggling with addiction.

And I felt like I had a solution, and so I reached out to Mark.

I thought of maybe a dozen people that I would suggest

that I would think would have a good chance of getting clean.

And she goes, who would be the hardest?

I'm like, "Well, the hardest that I know of would be Amanda."

And she goes, "That's who I want to help."

She was literally trying to kill herself on a daily basis.

Alright, we have ----, Amanda's father,

and we have Lima

who has a plan in how to help Amanda.

Larry, tell me what happened.

Amanda, she's in jail for an assault.

Assault on you? On me.

With a pipe? With the pipe.

She's been locked up now for a few weeks.

She has a court date

but we have to petition to try to get conservatorship.

And Ms Lima shows up and petitions.

Her appearance and her presence made the difference.

So this is an example of alternative sentencing.

It's been cropping up across the country.

The idea is you can avoid a jail or prison term

if you agree to enter into a treatment program.

In this instance, Lima is Amanda's legal guardian.

So it's Lima who's making the decisions about Amanda's future.

And what's unique here

is that Lima decides to put Amanda in a treatment program

that uses her AURA VR software.

I'm the most hopeful person you'll ever meet but I'm also...

I try to be realistic

and I kind of half expected that this was gonna flop.

Hi, Amanda. Hi.

How you guys doing?

But it worked beautifully.

Now you're in a rehab.

How are you liking it so far?

It's OK. I get cravings a lot.