Hidden Agenda

- And how did it happen? - Beat me up.

They made me stand against the wall, like this with me arms outstretched...

and my legs stretched out behind me.

Kept me like this for ages, for over 30 hours or somethin' like that.

And if I tried to relax or lower me arms, they hit me.

And then they gave me the crab treatment.

Were you arrested on Section 12?

- Yeah. - Okay. Good.

Do you have any idea why?

Sort of like most of me mates were accused of belongin' to the IRA.

Which he wasn't. That's why they let him go.

Could you demonstrate this crab treatment to us?

Yeah.

One of them grabbed me...

you know, with me arms back here...

while his mate punched me in the stomach.

He just punched me and punched me.

And the other one kept askin' me questions...

askin' more questions, and they punched me again.

Okay?

- Are you all right? - Yeah.

Jim, why don't you tell them what happened to you?

I was arrested the week before Michael and taken to Castlereagh.

And then they threw me into a cell for about four hours.

They took me out...

brought me up to what they call an interview room.

And two cops were sittin' there with me.

One of the cops asked me my name. I never told him my name...

'cause if they didn't know my name, they wouldn't have arrested me.

At once, as soon as I told him, all four cops came rushin' in the room...

took me off the chair, lifted me by the arms and legs...

and held me over a table.

And one of them put a towel round my face.

He was holding it at the back of my neck here...

and another one poured water over my nose and mouth.

It was goin' up my nose and into my throat...

I was gettin' the drowning feeling.

Sullivan?

Get the bastard!

I don't believe it.

- Tribal rites. - It's frightening.

Can I take you onto the question of the treatment of prisoners...

the question of interrogation techniques referred to in the press release.

It suggests that these allegations of ill-treatment have reduced since 1978.

Can I ask you to comment? Do you have a view...

as to whether these forms of ill-treatment that you found are fair?

What evidence do you have for them?

Not to be too dramatic, but these are all...

statements of alleged maltreatment that we have collected over our time here.

And that one?

"Punching, slapping, kicking the plaintiff.

"Causing, requiring,

permitting the plaintiff to lie on the floor of an interview room.

"Causing, requiring, permitting the plaintiff...

"to remove his coat and shoes in the interview room.

"Punching the plaintiff in the abdominal area.

"Banging the plaintiff's head off the wall of the interview room.

"Standing on the plaintiff's shoulders, stomach, ankles and chest.

"Squeezing the plaintiff's neck. Squeezing the plaintiff's testicles.

"Causing, requiring, permitting the plaintiff...

- "...to be spreadled..." - Spread-eagled.

"Between three members of the Royal Ulster Constabulary...

"while one kicked him with his heel in the area of the abdomen and raped..."

Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

These are unconfirmed allegations, right?

Allegations for which there is no outside evidence.

These are allegations from a group of people.

A great deal of this evidence is corroborated.

Is it a war situation or not?

If it's a war situation, to solve that war situation...

you have to negotiate, and so to accept that there are two sides...

putting around a table to negotiate...

and that, the British government doesn't accept.

Does your report deal with the shoot-to-kill policy...

operatin' here in the six counties?

Allegations of a shoot-to-kill policy carried out by the RUC...

the UDR, and the British Army does form part of our report, yes.

- Do you have any figures? - Yes, in...

the period of 1969 to 1980...

the evidence shows that at least 130 people...

were killed by the security forces, and half of those deaths...

were of civilians that had no connection...

with paramilitary activities at all.

Given the fact that there is a state of armed insurrection in Northern Ireland...

do you not concede the government has every right...

to take whatever measures it deems necessary to...

stem this insurrection?

Britain is recognized the world over as a democratic state.

We will present our report based on the documented evidence.

And hopefully, the British government will respond.

I'm sure they will.

Thank you. That's all we have time for.

We're flying out tomorrow. Thank you.

Hi.

- I'm Teresa Doyle. Republican News. - Excuse me?

Republican News.

You know the shoot-to-kill?

It happens all the time. I could show you a photograph.

- Of what? - Of an execution.

You have that with you?

It's not the sort of thing you carry around the streets of Belfast in your handbag.

But I could get it to you.

I'm sorry. Our investigation's concluded.

- So you're not interested? - No, we're not here to be used.

Maybe that's all you're here for.

Paul?

- Is that the tape from yesterday? - Yeah.

I'm glad we're leaving tomorrow.

Belfast reminds me of Chile.

There's no comparison. How can you say that?

That's the way it feels:

Killings, torture, intrigue.

A reality check: What happened in Chile can't happen here.

- Let's eat. - Yeah.

- You got any money? - Yes, I do.

Good.

So good night. See you tomorrow. Tough day.

Good night.

Can you believe he turned around and waved?

- Do you know him? - I don't know. I thought I did.

- No messages. - Okay, thanks.

Yes.

Harris?

- I listened to your tape. - Have you come to a decision?

I don't know.

We must talk.

They saw us together.

- How do you know? - After I left you, I was followed.

That means you're under surveillance.

I really don't think that this is something that I should get involved in...

but I'll tell you what I can do.

I can turn the tape over to whatever authorities you deem...

No! That would be crazy.

We must meet.

- Where? - Near Dungannon. Now.

It's less than an hour's drive away.

Look, I've got a plane to catch.

This won't take long.

Mr. Sullivan?

- Where's Harris? - He's down the road, waiting on you.

I am here to take you to him.

You can leave your car here. We'll go in mine.

- My car's okay here? - It's quite safe there.

By the way, my name's Frank Molloy.

- Did you bring the tape? - Yeah.

1169.

Sorry?

800 years: That's how long we've been fightin' for independence.

Sword...

famine, burnin'...

hangin', shootin', transportation: We've had it all.

Who's Harris?

It's better he tells you himself.

There's a car behind us.

Is it following us?

We'll soon find out.

There's something wrong here.

Get down! Get down!

- Ms. Ingrid Jessner? - Yes.

I'm afraid we've got some rather serious news for you.

- May we come in? - What is it?

It's about Mr. Sullivan.

He's been involved in a rather serious incident.

They were killed in a car crash early this morning...

which involved a police checkpoint outside Dungannon.

The men, who were driving a yellow Ford Cortina...

were signaled by police to stop.

Ignoring the warning, the car accelerated and drove directly at the officers.

Police opened fire on the vehicle as it attempted to escape.

The car then went out of control and careered off the road.

Upon arrival at the crash scene, police found the occupants were dead.

Names of the two men have not yet been released.

Can you identify the body as that of Paul Sullivan?

Yes.

Ingrid.

Come on. Let's go.

Ms. Jessner, where have you just come from?

Can you move away?

It's said the man in the car with Mr. Sullivan was a terrorist suspect.

Is that true?

- What are you suggesting? - Who was with Mr. Sullivan?

- I have no idea. - Police say he was a terrorist suspect.

Did the car go through a police roadcheck?

They say they opened fire after the car went through a checkpoint?

Where were they going this morning? Did you know?

As journalists, you must appreciate that I can't talk about this right now.

The driver of the car in which the shooting occurred...

has been named as Frank Molloy. Police said the car failed to stop...

at a roadblock outside Dungannon around 6:15 this morning.

An RUC statement said the driver accelerated...

toward their officers, who opened fire on the fleeing car...

causing it to swerve off the road.

Also in the car was Paul Sullivan, an American lawyer and a leading figure...

in the International League for Civil Liberties.

What's puzzling observers...

is why Mr. Sullivan should have driven out of Belfast...

in the early hours of the morning to meet a man...

who the police say is a terrorist suspect.

This is Ivan Little, Ulster Television, Dungannon.

With me in the studio to discuss...