The Dead Files

He's not done killing.

He's here to harm this family.

I feel like he's trying to jump into this person.

Attacking my husband and myself,

it wants to kill us.

If we don't do something it's gonna break us up.

Keep hearing "the killing spree."

I see a knife. I see blood.

He says, "I dissected my mother,

cut her arms, her head off."

I got that he was a killer,

and I saw him getting into bed

with you guys.

I literally wanna take a sledgehammer

and like smash this down.

I keep hearing, murder, murder, murder.

My name is Cindy Kaza.

I'm a psychic medium.

Somebody's conjuring up the spirits in this house,

I swear to God.

I ask questions of the dead...

These people are grave robbers.

...to find answers for the living.

I'm 100% sure that we are dealing with something demonic.

I'm Steve DiSchiavi.

I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.

So when he jumps you like that, what happens?

It's my job to dig up history on every house we investigate.

I wanna talk about the blood bath.

And dig up secrets that wanna stay hidden.

We've done everything but burn the house down.

Together we help terrified families.

A man's voice said, "I'm going to kill you."

Decide whether it's safe to stay.

I let him sit there and fight this thing.

Or pack a bag and get out.

His goal would be to have you all die.

This place is so off to me.

There's something off about this house.

Especially the wall that surrounds it.

I literally wanna take a sledgehammer

and like smash this down.

I feel like something must have happened when this was built.

Made the activity increase.

Okay.

So, I feel like building this wall,

or putting up this fortress around the house

is really pissing off the, the spirit.

Yeah.

I'm here in Florence, Arizona.

It's a small town about an hour south of Phoenix.

I got a desperate call from a woman named Shanna.

She's terrified.

She says whatever is in the house is gonna hurt her and her family.

She told me the activity is turning violent

and she's adamant if Cindy and I can't help,

it's just a matter of time before someone gets seriously hurt.

So, Shanna, driving through the neighborhood

and up to this beautiful home you have,

it's hard to believe you're going through hell here.

But when we spoke that's what it sounded like.

It is. It basically, it feels like it is attacking my husband and myself,

to the point that it wants to kill us.

You believe that? - I do.

Every day is a struggle.

All right so let's start with basics, so

who exactly is living in the house now?

Myself... - Okay.

...my husband. This is my cousin Mary,

and her two kids, Chloe is 13 and Aiden 16.

How long ago did you guys actually move in?

About a year ago. It's a new build,

so there's been nothing here prior to that.

So this was what? Just dirt out here?

Yeah.

Is the whole community pretty new? - Yes.

Okay, so...

gonna be a little tough for me on research on the home.

Do me a favor and give me a list of what you guys are experiencing.

Creepy sounds. - Okay.

Seeing things.

Physically drained. - Okay.

And mood changes.

How are these mood changes affecting you?

Massively. I'm up and down.

I can feel myself getting very angry, very quickly.

And what about your husband?

Jon especially gets very angry.

Um, which is not like him.

He's usually cool and calm and collected.

So we're not talking about just saving this house,

we're talking about saving your marriage? - Right.

You guys ever just think about,

you know, to hell with this, let's get the hell out of here?

We've nowhere to go. I mean we put everything we have

into this home.

And I'm a fighter.

I'm not one to just

relinquish control and say,

"Okay, you can have what you want."

'Cause I'm gonna stand and fight my ground

and what's ours.

There's a dead woman that haunts this house.

When she was alive she was super depressed.

She wants people to feel how she felt in life.

So, I feel like she can influence people's emotions.

It's dangerous because the people that experience this woman,

she's so manipulative,

she can drive them to become depressed.

She just likes to, to make people feel crazy.

All right, Shanna, so what's going on here?

Well, I saw an apparition of a woman right here.

Okay.

Did you get a good look at her? What did she look like?

It was grey. It was kinda transparent.

I just know it was a female. - Okay.

Um, taller than I was.

So, did it look like she was looking at you?

Yes, it was surreal at that moment.

Okay, so what else?

We hear all kinds of sounds.

Okay, like what?

It's like heavy old-timey furniture... - Okay.

...like on a really old wooden floor.

It makes that...

So, I saw you have the attic pull-down staircase like I got.

Correct.

Is there anything up there that could be moving around?

Any animals getting up in there? - My husband

actually put that up there so

he was just up putting everything in there,

and I don't think there's anything up there that he's seen.

Okay, so anything else you can tell me?

Just super drained, constantly.

All right, so explain what's happening with the draining.

I can literally come in to house from going grocery shopping

and all of a sudden I'm so tired,

like, I hadn't slept in a week and I need to lay down and go to sleep right now.

Are you taking any medication that would make you drowsy? - No.

Okay, so, it's... You're fine when you're out there,

you walk in and all of a sudden you feel like,

"I need to get some sleep." - Yeah.

You feel your energy

just being sucked right out of your body.

It's terrible. It's taken the life out of me.

There's definitely something going on up here.

Do you have any idea what that is?

It doesn't feel human.

Ooh.

It feels more elemental to me.

Is it dangerous to the living?

It's dangerous in the sense that

it can affect your body.

It can drain your energy.

So this draining, how, how would that feel?

Physically you could feel tired.

It can drain your batteries in your cell phones,

computer, things could shut off.

Stuff like that. - Okay.

Okay, so what's going on here?

Well, I see, like a dark shadow

over here by the window.

What does it look like?

It's just a big, the darkest black you've ever seen.

Just blob

that has three humps to it.

Do you have anything... Light coming in from outside?

No. Those... those are black out curtains,

and we keep those closed at night.

Okay, so what else?

Something like, sits on the bed.

Okay, when you say, "Sits on the bed"

how, how much pressure?

Could the dog jump up and jump off and that's...

No, the dogs are actually in kennels all night.

Okay, so that answers that question.

I wouldn't even know how to debunk this.

Me either.

All right, what else?

I've been pushed walking out of this room.

Okay, now we're getting into serious problems here.

Shanna, do me a favor, just do it to me.

Let me see how... how hard it... Whoa. Okay.

It was enough to knock me off my balance. - Right.

And I'm 220 pounds, so you're a lot lighter than me.

I... I mean, anything else physically

like that happened to you?

Been sexually touched.

Have you talked to your husband about this?

I don't talk to him about it

because he's got enough to worry about.

I mean, you're hearing things, you're seeing things.

You're being pushed.

You're being sexually assaulted. - Mm-hmm.

What're you doing here?

Living. Trying to.

There's an angry-looking man in here.

He's super aggressive.

Does he have any interaction with the living here?

People will sleep in this bed