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Twenty two minutes past 9:00,
this is Thursday morning. Very good to have you with us.
My next guest is David Icke.
He's a former footballer and sports broadcaster,
who's now known as a professional conspiracy theorist.
He describers himself as a full-time investigative journalist
searching for the truth of what's really going on in the world.
The author of over 20 books,
has lectured in over 25 countries, speaking for up to ten hours
to audiences all over the world and he's preparing,
appearing, I should say, in The Helix in Dublin
tomorrow night to talk about his book
Everything You Need To Know But Have Never Been Told.
David, good morning.
- Morning, Ryan. - Thanks for coming to see us today.
- Pleasure. - You're talk tomorrow
in Dublin is sold out.
Yeah, they're nearly all are these days
anywhere in the world.
You know, people will remember me
as the apparent nutter
subjected to historic levels of ridicule
and I think the mainstream media,
people in general, thought that a corpse
had been left in the gutter and that was it,
but the corpse got up, started walking,
started running, and now it's
sprinting, and suddenly there's been
this enormous explosion
of interest in my work in the last,
well, particularly, in the last three or four years.
Ladies and gentlemen,
can you welcome on stage David Icke?
Thank you. Thank you. Wow.
Thank you, thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
Do you think there could be
- other life other than humans? - I do. I do. Yeah.
You're the one with the theory, not me.
- Yeah. - You don't even know what my theories are.
If you don't give them any reason
to believe in you, they will dismiss you as a crank.
'Cause they're laughing at you.
They're not laughing with you.
Fine.
If I have to be stopped...
- Just stop you telling lies. - ...answer the question.
Just stop you telling lies.
You're such a thickhead. You're a thickhead.
This is politics, ladies and gentlemen.
Yes, I know people put
a lot of work into conspiracy theories,
but I still think they're actually intellectually lazy.
My last book before
the present one is 1,000 pages. Have you read any of my books?
- No. - How do you know
that it's intellectually lazy?
Your story is extraordinary.
Do you mind if we go back to the beginning?
- No. - Because I think
it's a perfectly appropriate...
- Sure. - ...place to start,
'cause I remember watching you when I was a kid
on the morning television program.
That's right, during the television...
Well, I was born in Leicester
in the English Midlands in 1952.
It was, what they call in Britain,
a working class family.
That just means we never had the money.
I had a great childhood
'cause I didn't have phones
and I didn't have computers.
I just had the world to explore.
My time as a kid
was spent playing football and watching steam trains, basically.
I remember my first day at school,
a little infant school.
I went to school in the morning.
Me mother said I had to go.
I didn't know what it was all about.
School, what's all that about,
and at lunchtime I'd had enough,
so I ran home,
at lunchtime on my first day, and I said to me mother,
"No, I don't like that. I'm not going back."
I said, "I want to go down the shops
"like we always do," you know what I mean?
She said, "You gotta go, you gotta go, you gotta go,"
and so I had to go and stick it.
I wasn't a confident lad
and the good things in life
always happened to other people,
they're weren't gonna happen to me, 'cause you know what,
when you are brought up in a working class background
in the 1950s and 60s,
you are pretty much gonna go, often, work in a factory,
or you're gonna work in an office,
or something like that.
But from the earliest age,
when I realized these options,
I thought I'm not doing that.
Now, just to the right here
is Leicester City Football Club.
It's a new ground now,
but it's right next to the old one.
On Saturdays, I used to come down here
and watch Leicester City Football Club play.
I used to
get in the ground... One of the first people in soccer
to get right behind the goal,
and I watched Gordon Banks
at real close range for years
and that's how I learned to become a goalkeeper,
just watching him play,
and then, eventually, Leicester City
got interested in me as a player when I was in school,
and I used to come down here and train with them.
That shop over there, that everyday shop
used to be an electrical store
and myself and Linda,
back in the, what, 1970s used to live
above that in the flat, we used to rent it,
and it was so cold, I used to go to bed
every night in the winter in an overcoat.
It was all we could afford at the time.
I was working as a journalist
in Leicester in the local newspaper,
which didn't pay a lot.
The Kube, that's quite right, isn't it?
I set out on a world speaking tour in summer of 2016
because I could feel that more and more people
were starting to feel uneasy about the world.
They didn't like the way it was going.
I just felt that there was a...
There was an ever gathering number of people
who would be open to hearing
maybe what is going on.
Back in the day, obviously, it was a real battle
to try and get anyone to listen to be honest.
Like, you know, when dad was doing his talks,
he was talking to five, six,
seven people sometimes, you know,
and in a theater that held hundreds,
you know, it was a pretty,
quite an embarrassing scenario, really.
There was nobody hardly.
I mean, there was a really nice group of people around David
and when we used to go, and be part of the talks
and the workshops, yeah, there was man and a dog
quite often coming to these talks.
Putting out the chairs, no one comes.
Putting back the chairs
and leaving poorer than when you arrived.
But you always had a sense that something bigger
was gonna happen, you know, but it was tough back then.
I'm feeling quite emotional tonight, really.
To think
60 years later,
60 fucking years later,
I keep getting flashbacks
of people at...
People at school that I remember
and football games
that I've played in and
wondering where they all are now, you know?
They might be somewhere out there, I don't know.
It's almost like a circle complete coming back here.
I can't really explain it. I just feel very strange.
It's a special... It's a bit special moment for me.
It really is a very special night.
Cheers, folks. Thanks very much.
Ladies and gentlemen,
can you welcome on stage David Icke?
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
Hey, thank you.
Thank you so much. Thank you.
Whoa!
Back in Leicester after all these years. Bloody hell.
I love Leicester.
It's amazing to think that a snotty-nosed kid
on the Goodwood estate
with his shirt hanging out all the time, it seemed,
and 60 years later
is standing here, talking about this stuff.
Life's so funny
because you never know where
it's going until you get there, do you?
It's becoming more and more of
a challenge to find places to speak without being canceled,
and I just wanna pay tribute to my son Jaymie,
you've seen him, the big lad, who has this
uncanny ability to move the pieces around,
so that when people try to silence me
move a piece here, then he says
checkmate there and somehow finds another venue,
so I'd like to pay tribute to him.
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