Faking a Murderer

Man: And uh, can you guys tell me,

which one found the tape? Which one of you?

- Uh well, we found the tape... - I found,

I found the tape when um,

we were doing a routine exercise to find

more potential projects for our company,

and um, basically it started on, I think it was a Monday.

Yeah, and as soon as, you know,

Adam showed me the video online, you know,

alarm bells were going off because you know,

if there's one thing that I can tell you about myself

for certain is that I am an expert in true crime.

You know, I've read all the books,

I've seen all the TV shows, I've, you know,

binge watched all the movies, and uh, you know,

the bottom line is,

David Stoner is a killer.

Where the fuck did Stacy go?

Producer: So what made you think

that this was a bad person?

I mean, going through the footage,

you know there was 30 hours of it,

so we were constantly reviewing,

and reviewing the material.

Yeah, well, I guess maybe we should take a step back here

and you should kinda hear about maybe

how we got started, you know, like...

Yeah, I mean we do horror movies, documentaries, um...

Stu: Sure, but that's,

that's not what I meant by starting from the beginning.

I thought like maybe that you'd wanna know

how we work together, and I think that's because Adam

forced his way into my family and married my sister.

Um, you know, Adam is actually my brother-in-law.

You know, Adam went behind my back,

started dating my sister,

and eventually they got married.

You know, we're family.

I mean, that's probably a best, the best place to start.

Is with our family, right,

because that's actually how we did start this whole journey.

To be honest with you,

we decided before we were gonna pitch it to any companies,

we would do a practice pitch with our family.

We're doing a production. In fact...

This could be our next movie.

Those two cameras right here, they're gonna film us,

and we're gonna practice our pitch,

because we have our other, our next pitch...

- Stu: Our real pitch. - Our real one is gonna happen.

But we don't want anybody to be like,

act that it's good or it's bad,

just be real, and tell us what you really think.

Okay, so what I'm gonna do is,

I'm gonna hand out a couple piece of paper,

you just pass them down, all the way down. Karie?

- Yes? - Who do you have?

- I have Steven Avery. - Steven Avery.

Stu: Just when you have it -

wait, I thought there were supposed to be pictures?

Why would there be pictures?

You just printed out names?

We've come across a man who's been uploading

about 30 hours of content onto his social media.

And as he gets more inebriated in these videos,

it sounds like he is confessing to a crime.

David Stoner: Mmm k.

Adam: We, we subtitled all this stuff.

Shut up!

I could have fuckin' fried you...

I could have drowned you up. Trudy: He's sick.

- Ugh! - I'm gonna have nightmares.

But don't check the Trunk...

don't check the fuckin' Burn Barrels!

- I hate him. - That was so creepy.

- He is really creepy. - I don't think

I could watch him, like more than this.

I don't feel like he has the same charm or charisma

as like, Steven Avery.

Almost like, you feel bad for at times.

Like, almost like, you know, he didn't do it,

- he's got this sweet side. - So simple.

Da, da, da. This guy is like a fucking animal.

He's a zero. When you show this reel,

there's gotta-you gotta show something a little more

charming about him.

Like maybe there's a transformation from like,

him being a normal person and then slowly going into this...

Karie: Can't be like that 24 hours a day.

Right, so just to address that,

like I think the entertainment aspect of it

that you're looking for, the endearing stuff, and all that,

wouldn't come from him, it would come from us.

Samara: Come from you guys.

The movie's about us trying to go find a killer.

Adam and I are going to go and look for this guy,

find out where he lives. If he did...

I don't think that's a good idea.

- Stu: It's not a good idea? - No.

- Why? - Who, who are you to go...

if this guy's really a criminal,

you and Stu are gonna go over and get killed!

Do you have anything more to go on

besides what we've seen here to,

to convince you that this guy is a murderer?

- Stu: No. - This is all you got?

This is what we got.

I also listen a lot of murder podcasts...

- Stu: Yes? - I love you guys,

but you're not investigators.

Like, you don't have any of that experience.

We think, we watched that video,

and we think he did kill somebody.

What happens if you're wrong, though?

Stu: Then we lose all our money and it ends wrong.

So, as our kids are crying downstairs,

- we put in about $22,000. -

Of our own money to go and make this,

so we really think - we split it down the middle.

- Trudy: But wait a second... - Are you crying?

I disagree because we're emotionally involved

- with you guys. - Okay, but you don't have to cry.

- Stu: Will Breakthrough cry? - Okay.

Is going to be-no, it's not. This is going...

Is this what's gonna happen the whole time?

I hope not. Yeah, that didn't go well at all,

but the thing that we had going for us is,

we had another chance to do it for real

when we pitched to Breakthrough Entertainment,

the company that we thought might pick this up.

Yeah, because I mean, we had to have another opportunity,

because if that was it, I mean we would've been done.

Our company can't survive on its own,

um, we need, we need a big success.

Now you turn. Stu: This is not a spot, man.

Adam: It's fine.

Stu: This is big for us. Adam: Yeah.

However, I will say that if for whatever reason

this doesn't go well, this might be the last,

like this might be a short feature.

But they would never even see this part of it.

Don't jinx it. Everything's gonna go fine.

I'm not jinxing. It's gonna go well,

and it's gonna full movie, I'm just saying, just in case.

Stop being so pessimistic.

Every single time you open your mouth first,

- things turn into a disaster. - That's not true.

I am going to speak first.

If I don't lead this discussion,

this whole thing's gonna fucking go amiss...

- Hey. - How are ya?

What's up man, how ya doing?

Both: Good to see you.

Genevee, how ya doin'?

We're uh, filming you guys. Sorry about that.

- How are you, gentlemen? - Hi, Stu.

Stu: This is gonna be a little bit different

than what you're used to. Nat: Okay. I like different.

Stu: Okay, so we're gonna show you some pictures.

If you know who the person is, you can say it.

- Well, number one... - Do you know who that is?

- Charles Manson. - Charles Manson, yeah.

- Steven Avery. - Dahmer.

Jeffrey Dahmer.

Do you know what all of these people that you see here,

have in common?

They were all the subject of hugely successful movies,

television shows, miniseries. Huge success.

Not to mention that every single one of these

are all tied to an award-winning program.

So, I know that, before we go out and make our films,

the best thing to do - I guess we could sit down -

- the best thing to do is... - Well, hold on, hold on,

hold on, true crime is the number one genre right now.

I mean you've been out there.

It's the hottest thing out there. For real.

We've found a uh, a video,

multiple videos online.

We've compiled them.

Wait, wait, just to back up, 'cause you look confused,

we found these videos.

You know, we're always searching for things,

like our stoner movies, right...

I'm pretty sure I just said the exact same thing,

- so he can't be confused. - No, well...

The fuckin' dog's dead.

No, it's a family show. Kiss my grits.

Where the fuck did Stacy go?

Where the fuck did Stacy go?

I'm not seeing the point, counterpoint here,

you know what I'm saying? That's...

For a dramatic kind of presentation, you need that,

you almost need to get inside a personality,

as opposed to this guy's just a mean bastard.

We have found two people that are willing to go on camera,