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With regard to his memory loss,
he could be feigning, exaggerating or simply...
malingering.
Now, I feel I have no choice, other than to remand her
to the Seapark Juvenile Justice Centre in Bangor.
I don't care what you do.
The only one who's honest is Paul.
The police say they have fresh evidence to put to Spector.
What sort of evidence?
Apparently they have found a lock-up rented by Spector.
Why are you in this place?
I twisted my sister's arm.
After he broke his sister's arm, he raped her...
and carried her into the street,
threw her into a passing bin lorry that crushed her to death.
No-one has any idea how bad Gortnacull House was.
Are you certain that Baldwin,
Paul Spector, was Jensen's favourite?
Every night and every day for a full year.
Paul Spector,
I am further arresting you
for the murder of Susan Harper
on the 18th of August 2002.
I insist this interview be suspended.
I must take instruction from Mr Spector.
Do you recognise this man? Do you know his name?
- David Alvarez. - This interview stops now.
What is going on?
The police have been clever.
They have something on me that I can actually remember.
I'd worked that day,
in a Caribbean restaurant.
It was a warm day.
There was thundery rain.
David and I went out after work,
went out drinking.
We went to a local club,
I can't recall the name.
We met Susan Harper there.
She invited us to her house.
I think she shared a house,
but there was no-one there.
- We went up to her room. - The three of you?
Yes.
What happened?
She and David had sex.
And you?
I watched.
What sort of sex?
Ordinary sex.
What happened then?
David left.
He went out to find more drink.
He left us together.
Go on.
We, erm...
I invited her to try something a bit different.
What?
A sex game.
What happened was an accident.
A consensual game?
Yes.
Then how did this David Alvarez individual
come to be found guilty if he wasn't even there?
And why murder, why not manslaughter?
It's complicated.
Did David Alvarez find somewhere to sell him drink?
I don't know.
He never came back.
Could I please have some water?
Have you, erm...
remembered more in regard to the other charges?
No.
It will look bad if you stop answering now.
Erm...
just be careful what you say.
So at that point you were left alone with Susan Harper?
Yes.
What happened then?
I suggested that she tried something, erm,
a bit more exciting
than the sex that she'd had with David.
What?
I'd been experimenting.
With?
Exhibit 132.
I've never seen these before.
- You admit it's you? - He admits no such thing.
Experimenting like that,
with sexual asphyxiation. Is that the
sort of behaviour you involved Susan Harper in?
I advise you not to answer that question.
Yes.
How?
Specifically.
Her head in a plastic bag.
Tied off at the neck?
No, just a thin plastic bag.
Did you tie her hands?
No,
her hands were free.
Was it your suggestion to use the bag?
Yes.
Why?
For the same reasons as
in these pictures,
to feel in control, to feel out of control...
to feel powerful,
to feel weak,
to be fearful,
- to be trusted. - Were you supposed to remove it?
She was...
at the peak of orgasm,
to tear off the bag,
it floods the brain with oxygen-laden blood,
leads to a feeling of euphoria.
Or death.
Sadly, yes.
Sadly?
Did she understand the risks involved with such behaviour?
I think so.
Did you explain it?
I don't remember.
Why didn't you remove the bag for her
if she lost consciousness?
Could you not see she was suffocating?
I wasn't looking at her.
I was going down on her.
We'd been drinking,
taken coke. Maybe that's why she died.
And yet David Alvarez,
who wasn't even there at the time,
is serving a life sentence for the murder.
His choice.
Why would he make that choice, do you think?
I don't know.
You'll have to ask him.
So what did you do when you realised what had happened?
Did you call for an ambulance? Did you call the police?
- No. - Why not?
It didn't occur to me.
What did you do?
Cleaned up.
Does that account for the presence
of a washing-up bowl by the bed?
Yes.
I fetched the water and washed her.
Emptied it into the bath.
I was meant to bring it back to the kitchen.
I must have forgotten.
What colour bowl?
Green, I think.
So you just left her there, in her room?
On her bed?
- Yes. - What did you do then?
I walked the streets.
And after that?
Left London.
I came back to Belfast.
And that's when you became Paul Spector?
Yes.
Did you have any communication with David Alvarez?
No.
At no point?
No.
I ask you again,
why would he take the blame,
do you think?
He must have felt he was doing the right thing, I suppose.
And why would he think...
taking the blame
was the right thing to do?
You tell me.
He said he felt in your debt.
She speaks.
He said he felt he owed you a great deal.
Because you protected him as a child.
Did I?
You told me...
that Father Jensen didn't abuse you at Gortnacull.
You said that you made yourself repulsive
so that he wouldn't touch you.
I don't remember that.
I don't recall talking to you before.
But every boy there was abused in some way.
No-one escaped.
In fact,
some boys were singled out
for special treatment.
And you
were one of Father Jensen's favourites.
He even had a pet name for you.
He called you "Pretty Boy".
He chose you to be his favourite
for a whole year.
When it came time for you to choose your
successor...
you looked right past David Alvarez.
You chose another boy.
And, for that,
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