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Hiya.
- What time is it? - Just gone 7:00.
You OK?
I need to tell you something.
There are no details of Vincent Erskine
ever having stayed at Arlingham House.
Yeah, well that doesn't mean he didn't hang out there.
If he going out with Elizabeth and encountered Jimmy then.
Yeah, well, Karen has also managed to locate the man
he and Elizabeth assaulted and he's happy to talk to us.
- OK, good work, Jake. - Cheers.
How do you think a person lives a life having murdered someone
without it showing?
A whole life of relationships behind them,
without anyone ever suspecting they did something just beyond awful.
Hmm?
How does that happen?
I didn't move to London when I was 17.
I came two years earlier in 1974 in when I was 15.
And I lied to you about this,
because I always wanted you to have a relationship with dad.
Whatever he'd done he was still my father.
Whatever he'd done?
It started after my mum died, when I was 12.
And it was...
...bad.
And so when I was 15 I finally told my auntie.
And she said,
"I could go to prison for telling such wicked lies."
So I left.
Came to London on my own
and slept on the streets
and drank cider to keep me warm for nearly a year.
Until I met a man called Vincent,
who was bigger and stronger than anyone else.
And he said he loved me and would look after me.
Except then it turned out he wasn't a good person,
and he made me think
and say
and do things
that were not who I really was, Ray.
Not at all.
What things?
In baptism, God calls us out of darkness and into his marvellous light.
Do you turn to Christ?
I turn to Christ.
Do you repent of your sins?
I repent of my sins.
Do you renounce the deceit and corruption of evil?
I renounce the deceit and corruption of evil.
I was a member of the National Front.
I went on their marches.
I made leaflets
and posters which...
Every day I used the words,
"paki"
and "wog"
and all those words.
And sometimes I watched my boyfriend attack people
because of the colour of their skin.
Hi, this is Lizzie. Please leave a message.
Miss, it's me.
It's just, I'm here and I'm still waiting for you.
Miss!
Yes, I remember Jimmy very well.
We bonded over football.
He was, um, a huge Liverpool fan
and I followed the Hoops,
Queens Park Rangers, who he loved to remind me
had not won any silverware since the '60s.
Yes, I often wondered what happened to him.
How terrible that it was this.
So, how did you first meet him?
My church was, uh, just round the corner from Arlingham House.
- We had a connection. - OK.
Um, and, when you say "connection," uh, what...
Well, there were a, a lot of rather lost souls
whom we, uh, at least tried to give some sort of succour to.
And Jimmy was one of those?
I think Jimmy had issues.
Family stuff as I remember,
but actually on the whole he was rather full of life.
A real character.
And can you remember at all who he associated with?
You know, who his friends might have been?
As I say, I knew him, but not well.
He came to services a few times,
but more to tell his mother that he'd been, I suspect.
I knew nothing about his day-to-day life.
OK.
Do you remember if he ever mentioned any race related problems?
No.
But I'm, I'm sure there were issues.
I mean, it was the 70's, you know?
Yeah.
Uh, does the name, um,
Vincent Erskine mean anything to you?
Mmm, no.
Uh, or Beth Laws?
Ah, well, um...
That rings a very, very, vague bell but no, not really.
How about Frank or Frankie Cross?
Nope.
Sorry, I'm not being very helpful, am I?
It's not, not a problem.
Um, Jo Jo?
No, sorry.
No, why? Who was she?
- Or could be a man. - Oh, right.
Yes.
Well, who was he or she?
Um, well, we're not sure. Someone who was fond of him, we think.
Ah, hmm.
Sorry. I...
No, I don't remember anyone called Jo Jo.
Well, as Aisha would say...
"Oh, my God, he so knows Jo Jo."
Be nice, wouldn't it, if just one of them bastards
wasn't lying through their teeth.
- Ah, he's a priest. What do you expect? - Yeah.
Ray?
I just need some time if you don't mind.
Whatever else I did,
I swear I do not remember this boy.
And I know absolutely nothing about what happened to him.
I love you, sweetheart.
- Why would you tell me and not her? - She'd worry.
All I want is advice.
As a daughter or a lawyer?
As a lawyer, before I speak to my own.
So, did you know him?
Yes.
- And you said you didn't because? - I don't know.
It was stupid. I have nothing to hide.
Well, first off you need to think of a better answer than that.
How did you know him?
He was a face.
He ran a few errands for the people I was working for.
Who were?
A family called the Fenwicks.
Who were?
Not as pure as the driven snow.
And what did you do for them?
What I needed to.
To earn my way out of a house with no running water.
But I know nothing,
about what happened to this young man.
I have to go.
OK, say nothing, do nothing.
Let them prove you lied.
Oh, don't walk out with me.
If the papers don't have this already they will soon enough.
Sit tight, Dad.
It's no reflection on you, love.
Right?
No reflection on me that you prefer your sister to be with you
at what is arguably the most important moment of our lives.
I don't think you should look at it like that.
Really?
I think you should look at it like she just prefers me.
Els, I worked that one out years ago.
Leave the poor boy alone, girls.
This is the man that said that watching me...
I'm sorry. I don't feel very well.
Dad?
What? All the Fenwicks are abroad?
Well, Charlie Fenwick died five years ago.
But his son Michael lives in Alcudia
and his uncle Gordon has lived in Cyprus since '95.
What, the north?
Yeah, there's an outstanding warrant for his arrest
over here on drugs charges.
But, we have located a Thomas Pinion
who worked with the family in the '70s and '80s
before serving 14 years for drug offences.
Knew Cross, but for some reason there's no love lost.
What, so, he'll talk to us?
He suggested a meet tomorrow.
- Excellent. Right. - Go for it.
Uh, so, Eric Slater our book keeper, we got an address for him?
Council tax has him living at
the same address as in the Arlingham House records.
OK, and Jo Jo?
Nothing for Jo, Joanna,
Joanne, Jodie, in the records.
There was a Jocelyn who stayed there as an occasional resident,
but she was in the '60s.
Plenty of Joes and Johns, but we think it's definitely a woman?
Well, his letters to his mum said he'd met a girl,
but, well, we'll keep an open mind.
OK, thanks everyone.
Let's see if we can get some photos of Arlingham House
from the '70s on the inside.
I want to get a sense of what it was like to stay there,
the routine, Jimmy's routine.
- I'll see what I can find. - OK.
So, please, please say, um, if you think it's a bad idea, but I...
I just wanted to ask
if you wanted to visit the site of Jimmy's grave.
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