Survivor

All right!

Thanks for the welcome.

Let's get to this.

You know, I just said this a moment ago,

but it was months ago when I said it,

and now that the season has aired

and I've had a chance to listen

to the fans tell me literally on a daily basis

the consensus is really clear to me

that this is one of, if not,

the greatest season we've ever had on "survivor."

So kudos to you guys.

Very tough game.

There's a lot of-- there were a lot of reality shows.

There is no show like this

that forces you guys to live in these elements

and compete with the mental challenges

that go on, on a daily basis.

But now it comes down to this--

three people in the " heroes versus villains season."

All villains,

Parvati, Russell, Sandra.

And nine votes if from your jury.

The jury has spoken.

I'm now going to read the votes.

I'll remind you, in case you've forgotten,

these are votes for a winner.

Here we go.

First vote.

Parvati.

Sandra.

One vote Parvati, one vote Sandra.

Parvati.

Two votes Parvati, one vote Sandra.

Sandra.

We are tied again.

Two votes Parvati, two votes Sandra.

Parvati.

That's three votes Parvati, two votes Sandra.

We're tied again.

Sandra.

Three votes Parvati, three votes Sandra.

Two votes left.

- Three votes left.

Sandra.

That's four votes Sandra.

Three votes Parvati.

Now there's two votes left.

The winner of "survivor: Heroes vs. Villains," Sandra.

That's okay.

You did it!

You did it!

We celebrated our 20th season

with what many fabz say was our best season ever.

It was a wicked game from start to finish.

Surprises, disappointments,

betrayals, breakdowns,

record-setting events

and dumb moves along with our first

two-time "survivor" winner.

Does that make for the best player ever?

We have everybody back here.

We are going to talk about it.

We are live in New York City

"the heroes vs. Villains"

arreunion show is next.

I came for one reason, and one reason only, for a million dollars.

Sandra undid sugar's top.

I've been sole surviving since my alliance was wiped out.

You know how some people forgive but don't forget?

Well, I don't forgive and I don't forget.

You want Russell gone?

Russell's gone.

She's weak in challenges.

She's ease to beat for the vote.

Russell is keeping me around

because I'll never get a single vote

but I don't know about that.

Sandra moving on

if anybody has the hidden immunity idol--

should I let you finish.

I want the title of sole survivor.

I think I deserve it.

Welcome to the heroes vs. Villains" live reunion show

in New York City

where we have just crowned our first two-time winner.

So, Sandra, does that-- does the fact

that you are the only person who has won twice,

does that make you best player ever?

It makes me the queen.

That's what it makes me.

The best ever, yes?

Without question?

Without question.

I mean, I have two titles.

What else can you ask for?

I go out there and my goal is to make it to the end,

and I make it to the end and I win.

You can't beat that.

Parvati, is Sandra the best ever?

Sandra is extremely logical

and her argument makes perfect sense.

However, I mean, I have to argue

because I've played three times,

and I've lasted the most amount of days,

and I'm kind of a challenge dominator. So...

That doesn't mean anything.

That doesn't mean anything.

I played twice, and won twice,

and she played three times and only won twice.

Russell, third person in this trifecta.

Best player ever, Sandra?

Do you really want me to explain this to you?

I want to hear it.

Get on him!

In 30 seconds or less.

Okay, okay, social player.

No. She's lippy and she knows it

and she loves it and that's okay.

But social game, no.

Physical game,

maybe the worst physical player to ever play the game.

That's actually strategy.

That is actually a strategy.

It is true that in--

wait, wait. And--

you have the floor.

Let me finish!

Strategic game,

her strategic game from day one,

get rid of Russell.

You know what?

It never panned out for her.

So let's award her.

That's right. For her failures.

That's right. No-- un what--

the point-- okay. Hold it.

Let me talk.

You've got 10 seconds.

Problem is the game.

I think there is a flaw in the game.

A flaw in the game of "survivor?" Yes.

Okay. If she can win the game twice,

there is a flaw in the game.

What's the flaw.

At least she's a decent person.

Let me tell you what needs to happen.

And he doesn't like it. Nothing needs to happen.

Hold on, hold on, Russell, Russell stop.

You've had 78 days to talk.

I'll give you 10 seconds to tell me the flaw.

What needs to happen is

America needs to have a percentage of the votes

I'm just saying.

I'm just saying.

You still wouldn't win if they had a percentage of the vote.

I would have won last season. You still would not win.

The only people here that like are you right there.

That's it.

You're pointing to his family.

One, two, three, four, five.

Sandra, let me ask you this- for the record,

that's obviously not- our show is not that.

Our show is very clearly defined in

that you attack a group of people,

you put them in one situation.

You vote out people and in the end the last group, that jury,

decide who they think deserves it.

This isn't a game in which you include America.

That's a different game.

So you haven't won this game.

Maybe you would win that game.

Sandra, what was your key move?

Was there one move that you look back on

and say if this hadn't happened, might not have gotten there?

I have a ton of moves, Jeff.

Like I said, I was a fan first before I became a "survivor."

When I go out there I take a little bit of every season

and use it to my knowledge and ability

and I lear from every season what mistakes not to make

and how to proceed in the game

so I take it day by day.

Tom westman, what does it say

as one of our favorite winners--

clearly.

What does it say

on one hand Sandra has only played two times

and she has won both times.

She has never been voted out. Of this game.

On the other hand, in all the time she's played,

she's never won a single challenge.

Even beloved Courtney has won a challenge.

You don't have to win a challenge.

You don't have to Wayne challenge.

So, Tom, what does that say about

what the elements are required to win this game?

I've always said the game is a third physical,

a third strategic and social, and it's a third luck.

A lot of luck comes into it.

The one thing I've always maintained is