FBI TRUE

FBI TRUE

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FBI True S04E14 XviD-AFG
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- We had seen bombings, arsons, attacks against

women's health-care providers, against physicians.

Dr. David Gunn was shot after getting out of his car

as he came to work at the Pensacola abortion clinic.

- I encourage you all to continue the noble work

of supporting your local baby defenders

from arsonists to snipers.

- A sniper used a high-powered rifle and shot

a women's health-care provider in Buffalo, New York.

And he's nowhere to be found.

- He has used approximately 29 different aliases

and false identification.

- He was affiliated with known abortion terrorist organizations.

- He had a propensity for violence.

We cannot let him off the hook.

Get back! Everybody get back!

Let's go! - We had get him,

we had to get him. We had to get him now.

Oh my God!

In the FBI, we make a lot of headlines.

Drug busts, mob stings.

Terrorist takedowns.

We understand why people want to tell stories about us.

- Mark it. - Freeze!

FBI.

- FBI! - Action!

But they don't know the half of it.

What really goes down?

We save that for each other

when we're talking agent to agent.

This is FBI. True.

- Normally when I'm talking about cases,

I'm talking to agents about their cases.

In this particular matter, I was on the squad and worked

this case intimately with... you were there.

Kristy Kottis is a 24-year veteran of the FBI.

Kottis was the supervisor of the FBI's threat response

squad, overseeing the bureau's response to terrorism threats in New York City.

- You were there. - I was there

- You were a big part of it, Kristy.

You were one of the leaders of that team.

The son of a New York cop, Harold Brantley's

New-York City FBI squad is investigating violent crime

against children and civil rights violations.

- FBI management for the New York office asked me

to come over to supervise that squad.

It was my job to come in to support the agents to ensure

they had everything they needed. - We knew the state

of the game in our territory.

I was very well aware of the abortion extremism movement,

and the high-profile abortion doctors in the United States.

A lawyer by training, Cynthia Deitle

specialized in hate crime and corruption cases for the FBI.

She rose to oversee civil rights for the entire bureau.

October 23rd, 1998.

Why is that date a significant date?

- It was a tragic day in that Dr. Barnett Slepian

Was shot and killed his in his home.

The news broke before our office even heard about it.

- This story is happening right now.

Well-known abortion doctor Barnett Slepian has been shot.

- Sources tell News 4 a gunman shot from the woods behind

Dr. Slepian's home on Roxbury Terrace in Amherst,

striking him in the back.

- A sniper used a high-powered rifle and shot him

as he was warming up some soup in his kitchen.

And within the matter of minutes,

he bleeds out in his kitchen and dies.

Cynthia, who is Dr. Slepian?

- So when I joined the civil rights squad in 1997,

I was very well aware of the players in the game,

I was very well aware that, you know, Dr. Barnett Slepian

was a women's health-care provider who practiced outside

of Buffalo, New York.

So just take a deep breath.

- So he did everything from pregnancies, birth control,

into menopause, care for women, and he delivered babies.

He was beloved by his community and his patients

and also provided abortions.

- I believe that as long as it's legal,

I will provide total care to my patients.

- His clinic had been subject to numerous protests.

His home, his family had been targeted

for harassment and abuse.

You pig!

Take your hands off the babies and women!

- I suppose I'm a little bit stubborn.

Adversity has never bothered me.

And the more that they come after me, the more I'll dig in.

- It was the murder of an abortion doctor.

That was a violation of federal law.

The United States had already seen Dr. David Gunn.

in Pensacola, Florida, an abortion provider

who was shot and killed.

Dr. David Gunn was shot after getting out of his car

as he came to work at the Pensacola abortion clinic.

- We had seen bombings of abortion clinics.

Oh! We got a bomb that just went off.

- Arsons, attacks against women's health-care providers,

against physicians.

In 1994, after the shooting of Dr. Gunn, Congress

and the President passed the FACE Act and it is against

the law to use force or violence to interfere with a woman

or doctors or patients who are attempting to access reproductive health.

- So the FBI gets involved and we open a Civil Rights

FACE Act case in the murder of Dr. Slepian.

Yes, we did.

- Mike, where were you on October 23, 1998?

- I was a new agent at the academy

in Quantico, Virginia.

Michael Osborn spet 21 years working

counterterrorism, crimes againt children

and civil rights cases for the FBI.

This was one of his first case.

The canvass of the neighborhood is ongoing.

They talked to one of Dr. Slepian's neighbors

who said: "Yeah, I did see an individual that didn't seem

to fit in the neighborhood."

She sees this guy jogging, but she said it really wasn't a jog.

And so they said: "Well, you know, can you describe him?"

"Yes." "Can you give us a description of the car?"

And she says: "Yes.

Not only that, but I can give you the license plate."

They're like, "That's huge." - That's rare.

When you get a witness like that, that actually have

the wherewithal to actually capture a license number.

- So now we've got a license tag.

What happens then?

- Well, obviously, we're doing all of the searches

of the vehicle and we ultimately find out it's registered back to

James Charles Kopp.

- Mr Kopp is being sought based on the sighting of a 1987 black

Chevrolet Cavalier bearing Vermont license plate BPE 216

in Amherst, NY, in the weeks preceding Dr. Slepian's homicide.

James Kopp had been a frequent protester.

He was affiliated with known abortion terrorist

organizations, Army of God, Lambs of Christ and others.

So he was a very well known player in the game.

- Didn't the Army of God actually have a manual

that gives instructions on how to attack an abortion clinic

using chemicals, bombs?

- Yes, and our squad had been tracking them for years.

So, we knew all the terrorist organizations that were

very active and prevalent in the United States.

So we look for a pattern, right?

Like, we want to see, is the pattern of what happened

to Dr. Slepian, was that replicated at some point before that?

And what we saw was that same type of idea

of the high-powered rifle shooting from a distance

shooting into a location.

Was the same situation that we had seen with shootings

in Canada of abortion providers.

- Yeah, as I recall, there were three doctors shot in Canada,

one in Rochester.

And Slepian who was shot in Buffalo

and he actually was the first one that was killed.

- So we knew there was a pattern here where the person

who probably did the shootings in Canada

might have been the same person who killed Dr. Slepian.

The Chevy Cavalier.

It's registered to James Charles Kopp, we know that.

We know he's got an address in St. Albans, Vermont.

- Which is really close to the Canadian border.

Which circumstantially, puts Kopp in the right position

to commit all five of these shootings.

- Law enforcement goes back to Dr. Slepian's home

to where they think the shooter would have been standing

in the woods and they find evidence

that is buried in the dirt.

In the woods, they find the ear protection

that the shooter used.

A ball cap that he was wearing.

The fibers in the hat matched the Chevy Cavalier.

And they also find a tube that is partially buried in the dirt

that has the high-powered rifle inside of it.

That was a huge break in the case.

When we recover the high-powered rifle in the woods

behind Dr. Slepian's house, that also gives us evidence

that ties us back to James Kopp.

We could match the DNA from the scope, from that little

piece of rubber that surrounds the scope of the rifle,

we could collect DNA from the rifle.

- And we got Kopp's DNA off a toothbrush from a place

he was staying in New Jersey.

It was in a backpack he had left behind at a friend's house.

- So we collect the DNA together and further tie it to Kopp.

- We obtained an arrest warrant up in Buffalo

and he's nowhere to be found.

I mean, figuring out who killed Dr. Slepian was hard enough.

But actually catching James Kopp before he kills again

is going to be harder and more dangerous.

- We don't know where he is. - Right.

- We know where the other high-profile abortion doctors are.

Is that where he's heading?

- James Kopp, you know, he had a propensity for violence.

We could not let him off the hook.

- And then shortly thereafter we announced James Charles Kopp

as a member of the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list.

From opposite corners of the globe,

the Bureau selected alleged terrorist ring leader

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