The confession tapes

After I lost my parents...

I felt very unmoored and crazy.

That night in July when that happened, I-I...

It... I can't even describe it.

All standards were lost at that point of reality.

The unimaginable happened.

The world that Mr. Big creates is this incredibly elaborate one,

in which this international crime organization

has this enormous power and...

We were, like, really young and...

reality had, in part, come from films like Goodfellas.

It creates this pervasive illusion

that the only options you have are the ones that they're holding out.

This undercover operation doesn't work...

unless the killers have a problem with which they need help.

So, Al, in no uncertain terms, told Burns that if he wanted his help

getting rid of that hair and DNA evidence in Bellevue,

he was going to have to tell him exactly what went down

so that he knew what he needed to get rid of.

So, when'd you fucking do the dirty deed?

During the movie.

See you left that out, see? I'm trying to check up on things.

You didn't tell me that you left the movie...

You left during the movie?

Sorry, I thought you would've known that just from--

I thought you'd just take it for granted.

No, I didn't take fuck all for granted.

So, they got a story. The story's false.

The story doesn't match any evidence. It doesn't make any sense.

They do whatever they can to obtain a confession.

So, what's this about the shower?

I took a shower to clean off, you know, blood and that kind of stuff.

The boys were called "people of interest" for, at that point, months.

And the murder weapon was in some of the news reports.

So, how do you know these weapons--? Well, what'd you use?

A bat.

Okay, how did you know they didn't find it?

Well, I-I... I don't know, but, um...

pretty early on, they kept saying that they haven't found the murder weapon yet.

They kept saying they hadn't-- in the press and stuff and whatever--

They kept saying they hadn't found the murder weapon yet.

And... that could be just some front or something, but I...

They're not gonna find your clothes?

They're not gonna--? Is there blood on your clothes?

Um...

No, there wasn't.

Those clothes are gone anyhow, but, no, there was no blood on them.

- There was no blood on 'em? -No.

How do you fuckin' hit someone with a baseball bat,

have to shower and have no blood on you?

You do it naked.

Fuck, see, I didn't know that either.

See, fuckin'-- You're holding fucking things out on me that--

No, what you're saying to me, like...

"Oh, well, what do I need to know?" And--

Well, yeah. I wanna know.

I don't give two fucks if you did it naked.

That's thinking smart.

It's little details like that that are gonna fuck us up in the end.

See what I'm saying?

You see why I get a little pissed off?

'Cause I can't afford fuckups.

Okay, actually, I just remembered one detail. Sorry.

Um...

I had a gonch on.

Great. Where's those gonch?

Just, like, in some garbage can or something.

They're not the fucking boxer shorts that are in the dryer

-or whatever they're talking about there? -No. Definitely fucking not.

Okay.

If you looked at the video,

Burns is doing typical criminal braggadocio.

"Now let me break off here for a second."

Criminal braggadocio... I'll use a case, for example.

D.E.A. headquarters asked me to play Mr. Big

in an undercover sting operation targeting corrupt D.E.A. agents.

I posed as Mr. Big, a Mafioso.

Met one of these D.E.A. agents.

And he so wanted to impress me that he said things on camera

that would've gotten him indicted for homicide

or conspiracy to murder.

Like Burns.

Only this is an experienced D.E.A. undercover agent,

not a 19-year-old.

And the reason I say that is to show you how vulnerable people are

in the right situation to brag.

Even though it's a lie.

Criminal braggadocio is common as dirt.

How solid's Atif?

Solid, man.

Yeah? As long as he's not gonna fuckin' break down after and say,

-"Oh, fuckin' Sebastian--" -Jesus Christ.

Al, man. How long do you think we've been enduring all this stuff, dude?

Really, like, this-- I-- I, really-- I do not think that anything that--

that's gonna happen to us now is gonna compare to that fuckin'--

It was-- It was quite intense around those days.

I mean, we'd just sit around and feel kind of sick, just all the time.

You know what I mean? 'Cause, like, you know, it was just rough and, like,

I mean...

Whatever. Those would be the days--

Like, cops were saying to his fucking face, like,

"Atif...

we know that you know who did this

or that you know something about it and you're not telling us," and stuff.

And I'm like--

I gotta meet him before too long. I'll tell you that right now.

'Cause when we enact this plan in motion, I gotta make sure that cocksucker's solid.

I mean, fuckin' solid.

Well, I haven't told him about it yet, but...

Well, no, we'll be telling him together.

They demanded that he bring in Atif...

because they needed the corroboration.

This is, uh... Al over here.

- Hello. - How you doin', man?

Hi. Nice to meet you.

The entire undercover operation was focused on Burns,

but Rafay was never there.

The first time that Rafay ever met Gary and Al

was the morning after Burns confessed to these murders.

I don't know what Sebastian's told you about me.

Um...

Well, he just introduced me, said your name's Al...

Before that, before today.

Um...

That, uh, you're a businessman of some kind?

It felt like these mobsters had sort of Alice in Wonderland -style--

just opened up this whole 'nother view

of what the surface of the world looked like,

so that, all of a sudden, I fully believed that the police

were actively framing us

and that these guys had the only way of keeping us from being arrested.

You and Sebastian are in a little bit of trouble. In fact...

you and him are so close to goin' to jail right now.

It's fuckin' unreal.

And I know that...

'cause of different things I know and I've read.

Why did you do this?

Well, um...

Uh, I guess the reason we did anything was to, um...

I guess set ourselves up so that we could...

I guess become richer and more prosperous and more successful and...

Hey, don't be embarrassed about it.

Everything I do is for money.

This particular Mr. Big operation

was the youngest boys ever manipulated.

No one really considered the fact that these were 19-year-old boys

going before extraordinarily manipulative federal agents of Canada,

the very best that they have.

Who chose the bat?

-I can't remember. -We mutually did, I assume.

Most of this was mutual, I assume.

Why wouldn't you get a fuckin' .22? Pop, pop, pop.

We don't know where to get firearms.

Tell us where to buy it back then, and, you know, silencer and all this crap.

And I'll tell you something else, okay? One thing we didn't know--

Gunshot residue test, like, immediately after.

-It was brutal. -Yeah.

I guess you may have known about that, but, at the time, I--

I was fuckin' introduced to that concept when they did the test on us.

They stashed the weapon, the Walkman that Atif claims to have noticed

that was missing in-between observing his murdered parents,

and the VCR that they yanked out of the-- out of the holder that it was in.

They put them in a series of different dumpsters in Seattle.

So, the baseball bat was never recovered.

Uh, and... there was no way it was ever going to be recovered.

And-And-And, again, that's an example of the planning

that went into the way these murders were committed.

Jimmy's another guy. What does Jimmy know about this?

What happened to you in the States.

-Tell me. -Um, he knows...

what happened.

And then the last scenario was them bringing Jimmy Miyoshi over to talk to Al.

And Miyoshi, he was the only one who was smart enough

to not make any concessions about having been involved in this plan.

What I like about you so far is that, uh...

when they were going down to the States, you didn't fuckin' rat 'em out.

- There's nothing to rat about. - What? You could've ratted 'em out.

- Huh? - You could've ratted them out.

I'm just saying that there's nothing to rat about.

Do I believe that he was in on some of the planning? I do.

Jimmy Miyoshi was the last piece to the puzzle.

He basically just wants to know, like-- confirm with you, I guess,

did you know, like, what...

you know, was going to go on in the States kind of thing?

Why don't you talk for me, then?

This isn't gonna work.

Jimmy, I know that I can trust you with my life.

You know what I mean? He doesn't know that, all right?

And so, if you explain, "Yes, I knew about it in advance.

I didn't say shit to anybody," okay,

It just shows that, basically, you know,

you... didn't fuck me up.

Did you know about it?

-Huh? - Do you want me to speak loud--

No, I don't want you to speak loud.

You're sitting there like you're a little fucking whipped puppy dog.

Do you know who killed the parents?

- Yeah. - Who?

- Is that all you want? - Yeah.

And... I just want...